Regarding Renown - if one uses a Gift that induces a controlled Frenzy, does that still classify as 'suffering Frenzy' since you've chosen to enter a controlled berserk state?
It's always hard to classify these fringe cases, the more you try to make them precise, the more you complicate things.
So to keep it simple, I would argue that a person willingly going into Frenzy is willingly taking the renown ping for the greater good. Hopefully what they accomplish in that Frenzy will be worth the cost.
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